President Donald Trump and his former personal lawyer Michael Cohen reunited for a surprising radio interview on Thursday. Cohen revealed that the interview lasted 40 minutes and will be released in two segments. This marks their first public conversation in nearly ten years, highlighting a new chapter of forgiveness in their complex relationship.

Michael Cohen, who played a key role in two New York legal cases against Trump, has documented the reunion in a detailed piece. He reports receiving much criticism since the announcement of Trump’s appearance on his radio show. Some critics, he notes, showcase deep Christian beliefs online yet voice strong disapproval.

One minute, they’re posting inspirational memes about divine love and turning the other cheek. The next, they’re screaming into my digital throat with enough fury to melt the screen. There is a word for that. Irony, Cohen commented.

Cohen referenced a biblical verse from Colossians to explain their reconciliation, suggesting forgiveness as the core of their renewed dialogue. Earlier this year, Cohen admitted feeling pressured by New York prosecutors to provide testimony against Trump.

Cohen has been asked how two long-time adversaries managed to reconcile. He points out that forgiveness does not erase past conflicts or scars. Instead, it reshapes the future by breaking away from the hold of the past. He emphasizes that this reconciliation emerged not from forgetting the past, but from having the courage to move beyond it.

In 2018, Cohen pleaded guilty to lying to Congress, campaign finance violations, and tax evasion, serving a three-year prison sentence. He frequently appeared on liberal news platforms but now critiques society’s obsession with constant outrage and the danger of defining identities through opposition.

Cohen and Trump shared a long professional history, supporting each other through various challenges until their partnership crumbled. Cohen expressed to MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow that accountability is what America currently needs.

This week, Cohen decided that past events should not dictate future actions and that their discussion would proceed without erasing history. He encourages listening rather than judgment, suggesting that history can be shaped through conversations, not only dramatic events.

The interview’s first segment will broadcast on Thursday at 6 p.m. ET on 77WABC Radio, with the final segment airing on Cohen’s show “When You Know… You Know” on Sunday at 5 p.m. ET. The White House has yet to comment on the matter.